Mental Healthcare

Grassroots Wildland Firefighters request expansion of mental health programs and support services for federal wildland firefighters and their families.

Grassroots Wildland Firefighters Mental Health Awareness

“We all must Urge Congress to move Tim’s Act forward. Wildland firefighters show up when they’re called to duty, no matter the circumstances; now the time has come for lawmakers and Americans to show up for firefighters.”
—Pete Dutchick, Comprehensive Health and Wellbeing
Subcommitee Team Member

Over the last 18 months, the Grassroots Wildland Firefighters Comprehensive Health and Wellbeing Subcommittee has focused on better understanding the issues surrounding firefighters’ mental health. We’ve collected personal stories, mined new and existing data, surveyed the partners and spouses of federal wildland firefighters, and worked with federal, state, and local agencies. We’ve developed a more accurate picture of the mental health concerns in our community and how they can be mitigated. It is our hope that this knowledge will help shape legislative and administrative reforms, which in turn will establish programs that can help alleviate the mental health burden firefighters face.

Mike West has been an incredible friend and mentor to many over the course of his career.  His sense of duty to others embodies the true spirit of the federal wildland firefighter. For sixteen years, Mike served in a multitude of positions with the hotshots, on handcrews, on an engine, as a patrol, and in dispatch.  Before his resignation from the US Forest Service in July of 2020 to pursue a career in teaching, Mike had the courage to speak up and share the challenges he faced working as a forestry technician. He has continued to demonstrate this strength and duty by sharing his powerful story with the fire community. He does so with the hope that it can raise awareness, educate, and help fellow firefighters that may be quietly suffering from similar experiences. Thank you for continuing to lead the way Mike ! We love you brother!

Grassroots Wildland Firefighters spoke with Mike about the course of his firefighting career and the factors that led him to be diagnosed with PTSD -- and ultimately to leave the Forest Service and wildland fire forever. Starting at the beginning of his career, Mike described a series of near-misses, fatality fires, lost friends and colleagues, compounding stressors and a lack of mental health support that eventually pushed him to the breaking point. 

MW:    “Looking back on it, it started after that first near-miss in 2003. And I had no clue. And I know 2003 wasn't that long ago, but I think the attitude towards PTSD was much different. And my knowledge of it was very, very minimal. I associated PTSD with the Vietnam War just because, you know, I had some friends' dads who had fought there, and I just thought that was it. I didn't really think it was something you could get from fighting fire. It wasn't even on my radar.

But that first near-miss, we were on a fire on the Umpqua. It was with Lassen Hotshots, and I was a rental. And there was a Type 2 crew cutting towards us. And typical fire, skunking around all day, and then the lid came off and it ripped. And I was oblivious to all this. I was just cutting, trying to not to get yelled at and, like, prove myself. I had this attitude like, alright, these guys think they're better than me. I'm gonna be tough. You know? 

So we're cutting line all day. And then we got up to the top of this ridge, and we dive down the hill. And there was a piece of line, oh, maybe quarter mile long. And when we got to the top of the hill, that Type 2 IA crew, I don't know who they were -- they had full brim, red hard hats, I remember that. They started working their way up towards us. And we tied in with them in the middle, mid-slope, and then they immediately left, they bailed. 

And I remember as we tied in, it was starting to pick up with, you know, single tree torching. And then down below us was a meadow with intermittent Lodgepole and grass, where -- looking back now, it was a safety zone if you improved it. And trees started torching up underneath us. And that was the first time I got scared on a fire. So now I'm scared, and it starts spotting, and I remember the lead saw yelling, “Let's get this,” like get after it.

So we're chasing these spots. And I looked at my friend who was a fill-in on this roll, but he had spent numerous years on Lassen Hotshots in the past, and he was about 10 years older than me. And I looked at him and I said, “Are we in a bad place?” And he's like, “Oh yeah, we're in a real bad place.”

Shortly after he said that, the Captain on Lassen yelled, "Double-time down the hill."

And so you know, we ran down the hill, and it was just ripping on both sides. And I remember thinking, 10 of the guys, the bulk of that crew, were all local from Susanville. So like 10 of these guys are age 18 to 22, guys I went to high school with. And I remember this guy -- I played football with him, and he was a sawyer on the crew, and he was running in front of me and I had this brief thought like, “Gosh, are Laben and I both gonna get killed today?” Are all these kids from Susanville going to get burned up?

Two guys got cut off up top. It was a buddy of mine, also another fill-in, cause we had ton of fill-ins on that roll. And he got cut off up top because he was trying to save a pile of drip torches and some saws. Him and an apprentice on the crew ran up over the hill to a road. So they were separated from us.

We ran down into the meadow. We made it. And I turned around and I looked back at the hill and by that point it was fully involved. It was ripping. And that was the first time in my life that I really -- my mortality really hit me. It was just like, Whoa, I almost died. What the hell.

I was looking at the -- in my opinion -- the experienced hotshots, the guys who'd been there two or three years or whatever, and they were all spooked. But then we never talked. And so we just got right back into fighting fire. And I was so tired, and just trying to do my thing, and I just was like, well, that's normal, then. That's Hotshotting. So I finished the roll kind of with mixed feelings, but then the overhead took a liking to me and were like, “You need to apply next year.” So then in my mind, I thought, Cool, well that scared me, but what's the best way to get over it? Just keep doing it. 

That winter, I thought about [the near-miss] a lot. And I asked one of the guys on the crew about it. And he gave me advice, which probably wasn't that good, but at the time he thought it was probably the best advice. He said, "Just don't think about it." 

So then I went into 2004 on Lassen Hotshots, and our very first off-forest assignment was a fire called the Nutall Fire. And...another near-miss. But this time we had to run uphill, and this time there were more crews on the fire. And this time, I think our overhead made the right decision by pulling the plug earlier. Cause there was a Hotshot crew working down below us who didn't pull the plug, and half of them wound up deploying. So then this fire, there isn't really any hush-hush on it. There's a deployment. So it became pretty big news. 

And I was spooked after that. Like I was legitimately spooked. I hated going into the hole. And I started some bad nervous tics. Like I remember that season, I was always scratching my head, to the point where I'd have these scabs on my head. Because when I knew we were going to go into the hole, I'd just sit in the buggy and kind of pick at my head, but never tell anyone. Just terrible, terrible anxiety all the time. But in my mind I thought, “I just need to keep immersing myself in this fire, so that way I can get over this fear.” 

Because I didn't think it was PTSD. I just thought I was being, like, soft. So the harder I PT, the harder I swamp, the more I cut line, the more I volunteer to go into the hole and burn, it's going to go away eventually. 

We had a couple other, I wouldn't say near-misses, that season, but you know, like this sketchy style stuff. And at the end of the year party, one of our apprentices announced he was quitting because of that Nutall Fire incident. We had a guy quit mid-season because of it.

After that season, I moved to Los Angeles for a little bit because I was doing standup comedy, and I was living at my cousin's house. And that's when the PTSD symptoms really started kicking in. ‘Cause he left to go to New York to shoot a movie, and I was alone in this apartment in Santa Monica. And I -- oh, I was depressed. Like I was wanting to go to all these open mics and do comedy, and some days I would just sit in the apartment, afraid to go outside. It was right on the beach, beautiful, and I was super depressed and anxious, freaking out, driving on the freeway, cold sweats kind of thing. Not telling anybody, of course. 

I actually had a panic attack at my buddy's wedding that no one really knew about. I was the best man standing there in this church, this beautiful church in Arkansas, you know, big Southern family and all this. And there I am standing there and I felt like I was gonna pass out, like I thought I was going to fall over. I couldn't feel my legs. One of my buddies who I worked with on the Hotshots had to grab me and steady me. He noticed I was kind of losing it. I was super embarrassed, but no one in the wedding really knew about it. But once again, this was a PTSD issue that I was dismissing as anxiety, depression. "This Is just something I have," [I thought]. I wasn't thinking about fire at all. But it was there, you know?

So I was having all this internal fear that I wasn't vocalizing. And I was getting spooked on fires when nothing bad was happening. But you know, we'd be burning and it'd be picking up and there'd be spots and it would be loud. And in my mind I just kept thinking, “Oh, we're going to get overrun. We're going to get burned up” -- when we weren't, you know, we were in a good safe location, but I couldn't shake the thought that that's what was going to happen.

When I was preparing to jump, and I was training really hard, is when I finally thought, "Maybe my problems are mostly related to fire." That's when it finally started to hit me. Like, you know what? This job is weird. And this job is making ME weird. And maybe the reason I can't handle things like the grocery store or people being late, and maybe the reason I'm anxious all the time, is because of firefighting.

And then the following season was when Luke died. And then with me being like the mother hen on the crew and not letting anyone cut dangerous trees and all that, I really was thinking, Okay, I'm mentally ill, probably. This is -- something is up. Still though, still, here we are 10 years later -- this is 10 years later, and I still won't admit it out loud that I think I have a PTSD issue. 10 years later.

PTSD

Mike West: A conversation with a firefighter about PTSD

March 13, 2021

Select excerpts in conversation with GRWFF’s Pete Dutchick and Kelly Ramsey

For the full interview, see the attached PDF

Survey includes:

  • Mental health and traumatic occupational exposure in wildland fire dispatchers, wildland firefighter environmental health: a scoping review. 

  • ​Self-reported environmental health of wildland firefighters. International Journal of Wildland Fire.

  • Gender, sexual orientation, ethnicity, and status influence how respondents communicate their experiences in surveys of wildland firefighters.